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Posted 2004-05-31 5:06 PM (#32)
Subject: Keeping the back seat warm in winter


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While the pilot is nice a cosy, how does one keep the back seat passengers warm at FL200 and below zero Farhenheit (-20°C).
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Hum
Posted 2004-06-14 11:57 AM (#59 - in reply to #32)
Subject: Re: Keeping the back seat warm in winter


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Location: Limerick Ireland
Its a problem, I often do 4 hour trips at FL200, those in the back complain of cold feet. Our aircraft has had a second heater fitted by a previous owner. I guess it was worse before. It is a generic P210 problem, also apparent on a piston P210 I operated for a while. Max continouos power helps, as does an efficient door seal (2 dec C per 1000 ft altitude), also, I usually have everything on full from sea level if I intend to cruise at high level for a long time, front seats roast but it helps reduce the whining from the back!
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jlcichocki
Posted 2009-12-29 8:32 PM (#651 - in reply to #32)
Subject: Re: Keeping the back seat warm in winter


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Better late responding than never. I had (and very sadly) sold our piston 1986 T210R. My wife all but refused to fly with me from Nov thru March. She was always miserable. Tried a lot of things with very little improvement. I have been following SE for a while, and just found this web site. Will NOT get involved with any aircraft that doesn't have good heat control.
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Robert Nicolas
Posted 2009-12-29 8:54 PM (#652 - in reply to #651)
Subject: Re: Keeping the back seat warm in winter


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The heating system has been improved greatly in the last year. Now the heat stove is run off the left engine stack, eliminating the source from the right stack cross over to the left. Also there will be heat improvements with the new inlet that is running bleed air. Another feature that is a GREAT improvement is the addition of "thermal pane" window inserts in all of the side windows. This feature eliminates the ice that forms on the side windows when you have two to three (or more) persons in the cabin. Since the improved heat stove, the interior thermal glass, all Silver Eagle drivers have reported positive improvements, some even to the extent that it is getting to hot. Another little trick is prior from departure from a cold hangar or climate, have you plane put in a heated hangar over night, this will eliminate the cold soaking effect which punishes the heat system by trying to catch up. If you have electricity in your hangar you can plane the engine heater in the cabin with a cord out the storm window, really makes a huge difference...regards, Robert Nicolas, Sales, Service, Training of the O&N Turbine Powered Aircraft
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jlcichocki
Posted 2009-12-29 10:37 PM (#653 - in reply to #32)
Subject: Re: Keeping the back seat warm in winter


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Mr Nicolas,

Thank you for the information. Are these changes/improvements only on newly converted aircraft? I have been looking at a few existing aircraft that are for sale.
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